Level Cap Discussion Thread

[weasel]

Hey everyone,

The beauty of the level Labyrinth made me take pause, sit back, and wonder... "How did he get so many squares on the screen? The database entry must be huge!!"

And so it was.

The average level is between 5-15Kb (which is probably a bit low, because a lot of them are test levels with just a few objects). Labyrinth was 180Kb! So I am immediately concerned about space: What if everyone started making levels this big? I'd have to buy a whole whack of server space!

But that's not the only issue: with all those physics objects in the game, it really starts slowing down the rendering on slower computers.

Realistically there should be some sort of cap. It makes sense to have it based on pieces - maybe each level can only have a set number of pieces? I'm thinking somewhere around 200, or maybe 500? What do you guys think?

[Linkzcap]

I think oozle's was already over the top... but I'm not sure what everyone would want.

[OfficiallyHaphazard]

Hey everyone,

The beauty of the level Labyrinth made me take pause, sit back, and wonder... "How did he get so many squares on the screen? The database entry must be huge!!"

And so it was.

The average level is between 5-15Kb (which is probably a bit low, because a lot of them are test levels with just a few objects). Labyrinth was 180Kb! So I am immediately concerned about space: What if everyone started making levels this big? I'd have to buy a whole whack of server space!

But that's not the only issue: with all those physics objects in the game, it really starts slowing down the rendering on slower computers.

Realistically there should be some sort of cap. It makes sense to have it based on pieces - maybe each level can only have a set number of pieces? I'm thinking somewhere around 200, or maybe 500? What do you guys think?

I think somewhere around 350 to 400 would be good
Venture (reworked) is 220, for reference.

[Azxs12]

My dad says "I don't like stumping myself".

[weasel]

My dad says "I don't like stumping myself".

Well if your dad wants to buy a computer for everyone that can play any level no matter how complex, your dad has a good point.

Once your dad spends four hours on a 5000 piece design and it only ever gets voted down because it runs at 1FPS, he might understand the need for a cap.

[Azxs12]

Well if your dad wants to buy a computer for everyone that can play any level no matter how complex, your dad has a good point.

Once your dad spends four hours on a 5000 piece design and it only ever gets voted down because it runs at 1FPS, he might understand the need for a cap.

Wait, I don't get it. He doesn't make levels becase he can't beat them. Well, that's what it means here in Massachusetts.

We need a cheesy motto like: Save space before its too late!

[weasel]

I see.

Well in that case, are you suggesting we not be allowed to make levels or what?

[Azxs12]

No. I'm just saying if your going to make them make them simple.

[weasel]

Easyness/Simplicity of the level has nothing to do with piececount. :colbert:

[Azxs12]

:doh: I meant, don't spend hours on levels only to find out testing them its impossible. And simple as in few pieces.

[darkeagle]

I think 400 would be good. Just put a piece count in the game and I'll be happy. :)

[Dr. Phil]

can you link the labrynth level?

[Azxs12]

http://www.protonaut.net/?level=761 Labyrinth

[Lemons]

I think 500 seems fair. I have been trying to keep a level that i REALLY like under the piece count so it will save, but its hard. I'm assuming thats why the level wont save... because its under the piece count.